[DGD] LPC birthday?

[Erwin Harte]

Felix A. Croes wrote:
> bart at wotf.org wrote:
> 
>> According to my information, Lars wrote the first version of the lpmud driver
>> in april 1989, and the first public version was available in the summer of 1989.
> 
> Fast worker.
> 
> I guess that must have been a 1.x version.  Though I've never found any
> source code online that predates LPmud 2.x, I think it had no inheritance
> and no arrays.  Perhaps the exact date can be tracked down in an old
> rec.games.mud.* archive.

We did some digging in Google's usenet archive and think you are off
by a year.

The earliest posting by Lars about LPmud seems to be this one:

  http://groups.google.com/group/alt.mud/msg/9b08efb9b3ba16b5

It was posted on February 8, 1990:

  There are some discussions about how a multi user dungeon really
  should be done. I have made one, and it works, although there are of
  course lot of bugs yet.

  My game can be seen as a cross between Abermud and tinyMUD. It is up
  and running for public access, but as I don't consider it complete
  yet, I am not ready to go public with the address. Any one
  interested to try can mail me a request.

  My game is called LPmud.
  <...>

Then on April 11, 1900 he talks about it being public some day:

  http://groups.google.com/group/alt.mud/msg/1d5874a3a7970481

  <...>
  There are many players from outside Sweden (most), and as the source
  some day will be public, I guess we can have discussions here in
  this group.
  <...>

The oldest tar file references anywhere that we found was in this
message posted May 26, 1990:

  http://groups.google.com/group/alt.mud/msg/08b6495323c9abb8

  <...>
  The Lpmud files are very up to date, I believe.  Someone please let
  me know if I'm wrong.  Here's a current list of what's available for
  Lpmud:

  total 1532
     1 drwxrwxr-x  2 rabe     512 May 25 07:33 ./
     1 drwxrwxr-x  5 root     512 Apr 16 14:00 ../
     1 -rw-rw-r--  1 root     802 May 25 07:33 LS
    42 -rw-rw-r--  1 rabe   42939 May 25 07:26 docs.tar.Z
    55 -rw-rw-r--  1 rabe   56094 May  7 20:34 kantele.tar.Z
   280 -rw-rw-r--  1 rabe  270467 Apr 16 14:00 lpmud-1.3.1.tar.Z
   336 -rw-rw-r--  1 rabe  334337 May  7 20:33 lpmud-1.3.3.tar.Z
   408 -rw-rw-r--  1 rabe  404985 May 15 15:57 lpmud-1.4.0-A.tar.Z
   296 -rw-rw-r--  1 rabe  288767 May 25 07:25 lpmud-1.4.1-A.tar.Z
    80 -rw-rw-r--  1 rabe   81445 May 12 23:11 morgar.tar.Z
    32 -rw-rw-r--  1 rabe   32259 May 25 07:28 player_soul.tar.Z

Around July 7, 1990 LPmud 2.0 was released:

  http://groups.google.com/group/alt.mud/msg/0cc7ac65823daa99

  l... at myab.se (Lars Pensj|) writes:

  >LPmud 2.0 is now available by anonymous ftp from
'alcazar.cd.chalmers.se'
  >(129.16.48.100).

  In the USA, you can FTP it from einstein.math.ksu.edu (129.130.30.9)
  in /pub/mud/lpmud-2.0.tar.Z.  Also, try our our LPmud at port 2056
  on einstein.

  Tim

Cheers,
Erwin