[DGD] Microsoft & Github (Off Topic)

[bart at wotf.org]

We used to say that eventually, every program will evolve into a mailer. Git
got there a long time ago, as did many others, so I suggest we change this
into 'every program will evolve into an archiver'. Adding gzip support to dgd
has been discussed a few times, I guess it could be on its way to becoming an
archiver, possibly before git!

Bart.

On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 19:20:19 -0700, Raymond Jennings wrote
> Not really what I was getting at, more that I figured people who are
> in the support area for git would be possibly more knowledgeable 
> about git's design principles than the DGD mailing lst.
> 
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 7:16 PM, Dread Quixadhal 
> <quixadhal at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Blain asked for opinions, I gave mine.  Sorry it doesn’t match yours.
> >
> > Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >
> > From: Raymond Jennings
> > Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 19:06
> > To: All about DGD and Hydra
> > Subject: Re: [DGD] Microsoft & Github (Off Topic)
> >
> > Try debating that topic in #git on irc.freenode.net
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Dread Quixadhal <quixadhal at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Why can’t checking out a given commit set the file and/or directory
involved to the timestamp of the commit?  For example, if you browse one of my
GitHub repositories, such as https://github.com/quixadhal/fluffos , you will
see the timestamps of each file along with each directory (which is the
timestamp of the most recent file in it).
> >>
> >> When doing a “git clone git at github.com:quixadhal/fluffos.git test”, every
single file and directory has the timestamp of the time I did the clone.
> >>
> >> There’s no reason for that.  The information is there.  Maybe this is a
client side issue.
> >>
> >> And if the people who wrote the git protocol didn’t allow for extensions,
they were extremely short-sighted.
> >>
> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >>
> >> From: Raymond Jennings
> >> Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 18:52
> >> To: All about DGD and Hydra
> >> Subject: Re: [DGD] Microsoft & Github (Off Topic)
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 6:04 PM, Dread Quixadhal <quixadhal at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Likely a boon.
> >>>
> >>> Not only more money to develop it, but since they’ll use it internally,
they’ll fix some of the annoyances it has.  The tricky part is extending it in
such a way that other git software can just ignore the new features they’ll
add.  Hopefully the git people thought of that.
> >>>
> >>> One feature I’d like is to have it preserve timestamps on both files and
directories when cloning or unpacking.
> >>
> >> That sounds like something that would require support from the core
> >> git protocol itself.
> >>
> >> For example, do tree objects support timestamps or just an association
between
> >> filename and the sha1 of the associated object?
> >>
> >> In a nutshell, a tag points to a commit, and a commit points to its
> >> parent commits and the tree representing the root directory.  Each
> >> tree object has a mapping between a name and a sha1 hash of the
> >> associated object.  If the object is a file, then it's a blob.  If
> >> it's a directory, then it's a tree.
> >>
> >> Only the commit has timestamps associated with it AFAIK.
> >>
> >> git has a specific protocol and internal structure.  You can't just
> >> randomly paste extensions onto it without wrecking compatibility.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >>>
> >>> From: Blain
> >>> Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 17:39
> >>> To: DGD
> >>> Subject: [DGD] Microsoft & Github (Off Topic)
> >>>
> >>> So, Microsoft buying Github.  Boon or bane?
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