[DGD] Re: Alternatives to the Kernel model of security...

[Bart van Leeuwen]

Ok, the following might be a bit negative, but its my general experience
with dealing with groups of people..

People want to keep using what they have, Noah is very correct in that.
Give them small changes at a rate they can manage, fine. GIve them
something entirely new where they have to learn before being able to do
anything? forget it for as far as most people are concerned.

This is also the best explanation for the existance of things like mudos
and lpmud 'emulations' and similar on DGD. Yes, a small group can deal
with such changes, but the majority of people might technically be able
to, but is definitely not willing to, even when it gets them something
better.

Bart.

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Par Winzell wrote:

> Noah Gibbs wrote:
> >   It's true that WebDAV might work well.  It's
> > unfortunately also true that documenting the steps
> > people have given here for Win32 will require (at
> > least) one of those pages showing how to go through
> > the dialog boxes with all the pictures in between.
> > That's just as minimal documentation.  God help me if
> > I want to get random linux users to build and install
> > a kernel module.
> >
> >   Yes, yes, building kernel stuff isn't hard.  How
> > many people do you know that have avoided it anyway,
> > even if it was the only reasonable way to do
> > something?  I know a depressingly large number, and
> > many (such as a fellow who programs for a major
> > studio) are extremely competent.
>
> I don't really understand this concern. If you wanted a FTP-based
> filesystem (there -is- an ssh based one as I recall) you'd need to
> compile a kernel module too. WebDAV is just HTTP, right? It has no need
> for kernel modules. Filesystems do.
>
> The 'cadaver' client, which Dworkin has already mentioned, is what you
> should compare FTP against.
>
> Zell
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