[MUD-Dev] Player run reputation system

[David Loeser]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Koster, Raph
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 1:26 AM
> To: 'mud-dev at kanga.nu'
> Subject: RE: [MUD-Dev] Player run reputation system

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Matt Mihaly
>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 2:45 PM
>> To: mud-dev at kanga.nu
>> Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Player run reputation system

>> On Wed, 23 May 2001, shren wrote:

>>> Such schemes are prone to mule accounts and false accounts
>>> voting about how great a guy Joey the pk is.

>> I'm not an expert on it, but the advogato system,
>> (www.advogato.com) seems to be fairly immune to these sorts of
>> troubles.

> We explored using it on SWG. The problem with it is its
> purpose. Yes, it succeeds at routing around uh, "enhanced"
> reputations; someone who is already established in the network and
> who has multiple sources of information can ascertain which
> reputations are inflated, which fit with his worldview, etc. What
> it doesn't do is provide a novice any indicator of who the good
> and bad nodes are.  So for the purpose of indicating status to
> people new to the system, it doesn't offer any real help; in fact,
> to someone with zero trusted referents, everyone looks the
> same. As this was one of our primary reasons to use a reputation
> system, we abandoned the idea.

It seems to me that a player run reputation system should be based
on how other people see, or what they think of, an individual.

Using UO, one example of could be when you are killed by another
player (PK) and you are presented with the bounty dialog - instead
of bounties (or in addition to), the (dead) player would be given
the opportunity to decrease the assailants reputation points.  This
would/could eliminate the rampant voting scheme someone mentioned in
another post.

If a player run reputation system or any kind of reputation system
be it NPC based or other should have an effect on ever player in the
game.  Two players, one a valiant warrior who is well respected in
much of the land would probably get treated with a bit more
reverence than a player that is a known murderer.  An example (which
may not stand up) is the well respected player would receive free
drinks at the town pub - and the murderer may be charged. (Then
again, the murderer may get free drinks as well :)

I think there are many areas in mud/MMORPG development that haven't
been expanded on to any degree.  Of the next generation of
commercial MMORPGs to hit the market, Shadowbane seems to be the
standout while the others (I'm referring to the midevil period
games) seem to be "Me too's."

David "Dak Lozar" Loeser


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