[MUD-Dev] RE: The Permadeath of PvP (was RE: Hiding the Numbers (was Re: [M UD-Dev] Maintaining fiction.)

[Koster]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Mihaly
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:48 PM
> To: mud-dev at kanga.nu
> Subject: Re: The Permadeath of PvP (was RE: Hiding the Numbers
> (was Re: [MUD-Dev] Maintaining fiction.)

> On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Lee Sheldon wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Matt Mihaly
  
>>> I do not buy that explorers or socializers are necessarily in
>>> competition with each other.
  
>> I agree, Matt.  The belief that all four quadrants are into
>> competition is simply a killer/achiever way of looking at it.
>> I'd suggest that many of those currently working on commercial
>> MUDs fall into the killer/achiever category, and share this
>> opinion of explorers and socializers.  It might explain why we
>> have a swatch of worlds coming out that emphasize PvP (DAoC,
>> Shadowbane, etc.) despite the apparently low percentage of
>> players who actually play PvP in current games.  The answer to
>> the low PvP seems to be "They did it wrong.  We'll do it right."
>> I'd argue that no more than the same 20% or lower -want- somebody
>> to do it right.  The others simply don't want PvP.

> Interestingly, I also agree, despite running an extremely heavy
> PvP game. I'm very aware I'm targetting a niche within a niche.

This is the second time in two days I have seen the assertion that
many of those working on commercial muds are K types, which is not
at all my impression (my impression is largerly Es with a liberal
sprinkling of As).  Then again, UO is (in)famous for the PKing in
it, and SWg will have a lot of PvP in it, and I am an EAS, with only
6% K according to the andreasen.org test. :)

I do think that people tend to compare themselves. All the
time. Given a way to do it, they'll do it, regardless of personality
type.

I also think that a lot of people who are not K types enjoy
player/player conflict. And that's a lot of people you oculd get
playing your game if youdid it in a way they enjoyed.

I think the niche within the niche is the all-conflict game.

-Raph
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