[MUD-Dev] New Bartle article

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On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Richard A. Bartle wrote:

> On 23rd February, 2001, Raph Koster wrote:
 
> I'm not too bothered, though, in that the point of the article was
> to get people to think. Even if most of them think the same thing
> (and disagree), that's not a bad thing. So long as it gives a few
> people ideas on how to address some of the issues it raises, that's
> good enough for me.

Let me just say first that I agree with much of what you said in that
article.

> On the whole, though, yes, it's going to be absurd if people have to
> risk their lives to be the best pizza chef. It's not necessarily
> absurd for people to risk their lives to become head of the mighty
> guild of bakers. It is very likely to be absurd for people to get to
> be warlord of the golden steppes without ever being remotely at
> risk.

Even it if isn't absurd, it will mean that the title/position has very
little meaning to the officeholder. Remember though that risk doesn't
have to just be simulated physical risk. There's the risk of losing
respect, etc, that is just as important in a leadership position.

>> Giving the PvPers anything other than cosmetic advantages over
>> other players contributes nothing of value to the game
 
> Its a little worrying that lines like this can be stated
> axiomatically without any discussion.

Yes, it was a pretty ridiculous statement by whomever made it.

> Some people do leave after being killed, but not many. The key is,
> it's being killed TOO OFTEN that drives players away. For some
> individuals, once is too often. For most, though, it takes more than
> that.

Yep, definitely. If you care enough to get pissed off about being
killed, you're probably coming back. It's only when you get that dull
"What, again?" feeling that you're probably not coming back.

--matt

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